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086a - hurting

I hardly ever post here these days but reading this made me swell up with anger. What a presumptuous ass this person is. Ugh. I have found that in the last two years since my son died it is the "godly" and "righteous" who have said the dumbest, meanest, stupidest shit to me. It is so easy to sit in judgment of someone when not living in their situation. You are doing the best you can and your children are not somehow suffering because you are grieving the loss of their sibling. Shame on this person. I'm sure God is really, really, proud of him/her.

Honestly, I think people need to know that saying those types of things are hurtful and ignorant (unless the sender also has dealt with the grief of a dead child, which I seriously doubt). I would absolutely send an email in response. But I think your husband is right. Wait so you can compose something with a measured response.

Sorry.

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086b - not so much the picture of patience

Yep, I've had my son referred to as an "it" straight to my face. Actually not too long ago. Pretty ugly thing to say. I corrected her and took it as an opportunity to tell the woman about George's life and death. Then I shrugged it off. This particular person is incredibly insensitive and for her it was just normal behavior so I was able to ignore it pretty well.

Sorry you had to be audience to that. Perhaps her "spirituality" was clouding her sensibility. I actually often find that the insensitive things people say almost always tend to be clouded in pseudo-spirituality.

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087 - painful facebook status updates

Pregnancy and living child mentioned)

Steph, I'm with Julie. The post in question would be perfectly appropriate for you to claim as your own. Perhaps you can turn your hurt into an opprotunity to teach others how you want to be treated - as the mother you are.

I did not enter the FB world until after Noah's death. I can't say that it has been all positive for me, but over all I enjoy the time I spend there. I am actually more upset about friends whose political views are either (in my opinion) poorly informed or completely divergent from my own. Those folks I need to hide.

I post about Noah on FB. I have a charcoal image of him that I sometimes use as my profile picture. I mentioned him on his birthday, and posted pictures of his decorated grave at Christmas. I posts links of interest to the babylost. Several of my friends usually offer kind comments.

However, there is one acquaintance of mine on FB who always seems to post things that rub me the wrong way. We were pregnant this last summer at the same time. In fact my "rainbow" baby and her second daughter were born a week apart. I don't know her well but she is, apparently, a very conservative Christian, and her posts about "God's will" and her family being "blessed by God" just irritate the heck out of me - irrationally so. My thought process goes along the lines of - why does she think she is so special? And - doesn't she understand there is a flip side to God's shiny happy plans? And why exactly did God plan for my sweet baby boy to rot in the ground? I read her posts as "HaHa God likes me better than you!" It also really really bugs me that she got to thoughtlessly enjoy being pregnant at the exact same time that I was white-knuckling it through the most harrowing 37w5d of my life. I feel a twinge of this "insult" with most pregnant women I meet - but this one woman, for some reason, drives me to distraction with the blissfulness of her ignorance - I read it as spiteful arrogance instead of the luck of the draw and I really can't say for sure why. Thank God for that "hide" button :0)

Peace to you all.

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088 - let's try this again...without the sucky title

I am sorry for your loss. I lost my child 2 years nine months and 15 days ago. The rage and pain is still with me. I have my wife most of the time to vent with. She has the same pain as i do. I also went bowling at lot (my hobby) i was able to release a tone of tention by flinging the ball down the lane as fast as i could for several hours. I always have to remind myself now and then that people are stupid. They only think about themselves for the most part. i still would love to make them digest their tongues once i a while but i don't. I try had to keep in control for my family and my wife because they still need me, no matter how hard it is form me. i am the man and i have to pick up and carry on. no one can understand until they have to go through it. it is different for men, women, grandparents, brothers, sisters and so on, but we all have to go through it. there is no way around the pain and the billions of stupid people out there. I have also found myself a little closer to God. So i say God bless you and your family my you continue to grow and strengthen during this time.

May 21, 2012 | BEAR
 
 

Just a note to let you know you are still being thought of and prayed for. God bless
June 5, 2012 | BEAR

 

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negative example of code 4

089 - let's try this again...without the sucky title

I am by no means, well-adjusted or healthily coping but I am Auggie’s dad and this is what I have to offer.

Most people on Glow know my wife, Jill and this is the first time I have written anything although I have been known to lurk on Glow and truly appreciate the people from Glow that attended Auggie’s service.

When my daughter Beatrice died in late 2010, I got by as mentioned by another in this post on the raw and newness of the loss. And I put a lot of my effort into trying to take care of Jill. Focusing on someone else allowed me to not focus on myself. Being hyper vigilant to remove her from situations or any prompters that might be painful to her eats up a decent amount of time and energy. As you have probably already learned this is a fruitless endeavor but it does occupy you. Likely not healthy but not harmful in my mind so that is what I did. The anger came in quick fits mainly from how the rest of the world was not crumbling and weeping with me at the loss of my wonderfully, perfect daughter. The anger regularly segued into sadness which sapped my energy and soul, leaving me limp and exhausted so no need to expunge the anger.

We found out Jill was pregnant with Auggie in early in 2011 and that is where my energy went. I would think of Bea often but it would normally instigate sadness, I would cry for a little bit (normally by myself in the garage or in the car) and then I would tell myself to get my shit together because I needed to be strong for my wife and unborn child.

Auggie’s story can be found here on Glow, so I won’t rehash it. Jill and I loved him with everything we had and my wife is the strongest person I know and the only person I trust in talking about my feelings.

In recent memory there has only been one day where I was so consumed with anger that I thought I was losing my mind. I went on a bike ride trying to sweat out the aggression, but that just fueled it. Every single person that was near me, I had thoughts of harming. It scared the shit out of me. Fortunately it passed without any lash outs but I saw how easy it is to snap. So don’t feel alone there. I have thought about global apocalypses because that is the magnitude of suffering that I would want others to endure. That will likely red flag me on a Homeland Security watch list, but it is again to show you that like many others have said, we all have the rage.

Since I can’t answer any of the real questions, nobody can, I can list a couple things that have kept me out of a padded room or a cellblock:

- Do stuff with your hands. Anything, I don’t know your background/resources/hobbies/vocation but as a guy that spends a majority of his workdays in front of a computer in his office, it is nice to work on tangible projects. Sometimes it is as simple as taking something apart just to put it back together again. Other times it is something like I am going to do the most irrational cleaning of the car/house/garage that means cleaning things that have never been cleaned before. It occupies your hands and your mind focuses on a short term attainable goal.

- Do new stuff. Jill and I have started making our own beer, roasting our own coffee, I tried to teach myself bodywork. The latter was not repeated, but beer making and coffee roasting is still going strong.

- I will likely be chastised for this, but you already said that you can control your alcohol, so this works for me at times. Drinking beer in the garage with sad songs on the radio in solitude. This always turns rage into sadness as I grew up in the garage with my dad and planned to do the same with both Bea and Auggie. Sometimes, I feign working on something but most of time I am just drinking beer, listening to lyrics of loss and longing welling up for one of those drops you to your knees-cry from your soul sessions.

- Eliminate antagonizers. You have a friend, co-worker, neighbor that always says the wrong thing or always reminds you of being pissed off then fuck em. And I mean that in the flippant, poignant way. Dodge them at all costs, sing a song in your head when they are talking, whatever. By using the vulgar phrase it turns them into a lesser threat and empowers you. It sucks that you are the one that has to do this, but you already know that this whole thing SUCKS.

- Keep going to your wife for help. There are other guys here that have lost their children but we don’t know you, your wife does. Talk and listen to her.

It has been mentioned in another post that if you have Faith in a higher power, go full steam towards that. I know plenty of people that have made it through their most tragic times because of their faith. I did not include above since that is not something that has worked for me.

Above all remember that you are a husband and a man that is doing a damn good job at both of those at the worst time in your life.

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090a - prayers needed for Auggie

I am so thankful to everyone here on Glow. I've lurked on boards for heart babies but I can't relate to the relentless optimism and "god has a plan" attitude, which I get in real life too. One of the nurse supervisors, trying to comfort me, said "don't be scared, he will be ok." wtf?! I snapped back at her "you don't know that, you can't say that"--really, what a riduculous thing for her to say. How was she ever made a supervisor? I'm so sick of hearing it will all be ok when things just keep getting worse and worse. I know everyone here on Glow understands all too well that you don't always get your miracle.

Auggie has a facebook page where I've been trying to keep friends and family updated. I posted the link for anyone who is interested--it is public. I'm not sure how we will get through this and we need all the support we can get. (and Steph if you see this I am thinking of you and your Henry. I don't know why our boys have to endure this.)

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090b - pale blue dot (comment)

Thank you for this post. Holding in mind at the same time both the absolute insignificance and crazy miraculous significance of life has always been my personal religion, as far as I have one. I think most of the time, even now, it brings me peace.

I know others feel differently. When we were driving home from the hospital after delivering our daughter the song "Do You Realize" by the Flaming Lips came on. (I think the lyrics hint at what we're talking about, at least in my interpretation.) At that moment in the depths of our grief I found it a comforting reminder, uplifting even, that our Bea was a part of this universe, she lived and died, just like everyone else. My husband turned it off. It just made him feel more depressed.

I can't articulate my thoughts on this very well, especially when it comes to my son, whose short life was fill with suffering and pain. But it's something I think about a lot. And I don't feel sorry for myself. (at least not at this particular moment.) I'm just really, really angry at everything that has happened to my family.

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090c - caught off guard

Sincere thanks to everyone for your kind words and advice. I am feeling MUCH better today. I will definitely have to work on letting others know what I need from them. My husband has said the same thing. And we do have friends and family who have been very supportive.

Sarah your friend who had the dinner party sounds wonderful. We have received very few invitations to socialize. I'm sure people assume (rightly) that we aren't aren't up for a "party," but it still stings to feel abandoned--especially over the holidays. I decided today to host our own dinner party for my hubby's b-day next week, and two couples have already rsvp'd yes. I was SO afraid no one would want to come. I was afraid we'd become the scary dead baby people.

And Susan, I think it's interesting that people at church have been been the worst at knowing what to do. I personally am not religious, but we have several friends and family members who are deeply religous. They were very supportive when our daughter's heart defect was first diagnosed at 22 weeks, calling to see how we were doing, saying they were praying for us, sending inspirational messages, etc. But when she died, silence. Not even an acknowledgement. The contrast was jarring. And confusing. I'm trying my best to be gentle and understanding with others. I don't doubt that I would be one of the clueless if the situation were reversed. But I'm pretty sure I would know enough to at least send a sympathy card(!!)

Thank you all again. I'm so sorry that we are all here. I have been lurking since November but was too shy to introduce myself. It must be sad for those of you who have been here a while, to constantly see the "new here" posts. I hope that I will be able to help others, too.

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concern for baby in afterlife

091a - am I the only one?

You're not crazy. I like to think of them [lost babies of parents on Glow] up there together.

Not long after Matilda died, I had a nightmare that centered around there being no one up there to look after her. She's been the first loss of a family member I've been close too so in my dream I was worried about her. But now I know about all these other beautiful babies for her to play with.

DH's Aunt sent us a book called 'There Are No Tears in Heaven' that sort of works on this theory. I'm not really religious and not sure what I believe about the afterlife but I found it comforting.

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difficulty with joy of others in religious setting

091b - Christmas

 

Sending love and peace to everyone and wishing you gentle Christmas's. Especially those of you facing your first Christmas. We went to Christmas mass last night (DH's family are Catholic) and it was more emotional than I expected (I'm not religious but have to imagine Matilda is somewhere out there or it's all too hard). We were sitting on the lawn outside and there were little girls running around everywhere and I watched and wondered how old they were and thought about Matilda. Everyone said the Lord's prayer and I remembered hearing it for the last time in the NICU as Matilda was being baptised.
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untraditional ideas about afterlife for want of baby to still exist

092 - am I the only one?

I'm typically a non-believer when it comes to spiritual matters. BUT, today I left a message on my dead friend's Facebook page asking him to look out for Juniper. My friend died a year and a half ago. He never got to have a family of his own. When we dated our song was Michelle Shocked's "when I grow up". He wanted that"hundred and twenty babies" she sang about and never got to have one.
So here is my hope that Sean can show Juniper around and help take care of him wherever they might be out there. And, early on I told another friend that I hoped our boys were playing out there together somewhere. (His son fought heart issues for 15 weeks after being born, but didn't make it. He died 4 days after Juniper.)
I certainly don't believe in heaven and hell, but I do like to think that if you weren't quite done living, or hadn't quite started, you stick around for a while somewhere just out of reach, to watch and learn.

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093 - baby showers

So, in the last couple of months, I have had to face something that I had not yet faced. Baby showers! Yes, it has been five years since I lost my last baby and I have managed to escape all baby showers. I have lost three babies. Ones I miscarried at one month and two at five. I did go to one after I lost my first and second one, but by that time I was pregnant with my third one so it was not bad because I was looking forward to mine. In the last three months, I have been invited to three. I went to the first one because I knew it was really important to her that I go and show my love and support. It was the first one since losing Josh and it was tough. I was happy for her, but, could not help having some emotions thinking about what I missed with all three of mine and would never get to experience. It was a new mom glowing with expectation and joy so sweet. But, bitter-sweet for me and it really took a lot out of me. The following week I was invited to go to another one, but it was two hours out-of-town so I respectfully declined and sent my best wishes to the mom to be. This week they had a baby shower at work, for a coworker, and I just could not do it. I gave my money for the office gift, but went to lunch with my husband during the party. I think many people didn't understand why I left, but one of my coworkers actually got it. She came to my office before the party and asked me if I was okay with everything. She was so nice to check on me, it meant a lot.

These events got me to thinking "am I really ready to help others?" After some prayer and thought the answer is no "I" am not and "I" will never be ready or able to help anyone. If I wait till "I" am ready, then I will never do anything and all my hurts will be wasted. God however does not waste a hurt and if I will put "me, myself' and I" aside and just let Him have control of my life then He can do great things. I can be comfortable just taking care of me and dealing with my hurts living in my bubble of safety or I can get uncomfortable and stop thinking about am "I" ready. God has such great timing for His messages because yesterday was the baby shower at work and I was so focused on myself and can "I" do this. Last night we went to dinner with some friends and my husband and my friend's husband were having a bit of a theological discussion. They really did know what I was thinking about all day, they were just talking. God, however, in all his awesomeness used that as and opportunity to speak directly to me. They got to talking about how too many people are caught up in thinking about themselves. They were talking about the fact that if we focus on just fixing ourselves we can't be doing God's work and that is not how God intended us to work. One of them even said something like "if we wait until we are okay and ready we will never do anything because we will never be ready this side of heaven." This was spot on, exactly what I needed to hear. God is amazing and speaks to us in simple ways. He spoke very clearly to me and here I am today ready to continue working on what He has called me to do. I know in time even baby showers will get more and more easy.

Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.

Blessings to You all,

Mary
www.wounded-healer.org

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094 - so. how're you all doing?

It is so good to have a catch up of how everyone is doing. Those of you TTC - you are all on my heart. Praying for a Glow In The Woods BABY BOOM!!!!!

In now 23.5 weeks... was only vaguely aware of the "viable" mark at 24 weeks... that's exciting. Eliza you can be dam sure I will be celebrating that. That's in a way how I'm getting through this pregnancy: surviving from one milestone to the next. 12 weeks - celebrate. Every uneventful scan - celebrate. I am doing kick counting (yes yes, I know it is about a month too early still, but it keeps me sane) and even a successful 10 kicks feels like a cause for celebration.

I am scared. I am scared by my confidence. My nature has always been optimistic but we all know that optimism is not enough. Even faith is not enough. People say "it's all going to be fine, you need to trust God".

Actually I did trust God and I DO trust God but that doesnt mean a baby won't die. It means that He won't leave me or forsake me.

THe other day a colleague heard I was pregnant and she asked if I'd decided whether or not I wanted to keep the baby.
!????!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!??!?!?!?!

People!!!!!

Anyway this is turning into a very mixedup little rant :) sorry!

Thinking of you all and praying we'll all be able to celebrate new lives soon enough xxx

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095a - random walk

Why are we here? All of us, I mean, humanity? Philosophers have been at this for millennia. So have uncounted and uncountable others. What we call regular people. Happy, unhappy, kind, lonely, content, brilliant, sad, successful, lovely, mean-- all kinds of people.

I found my answer long ago. I would like to say that I found it in my freshman biology class, but I would probably be lying. I certainly met the concept there, but it wasn't until a few years later, when my work in the lab required me to consider its moving parts, or maybe not even fully until I started teaching, that the idea blossomed and made itself a home right in the center of my brain. It wasn't a particularly painful process, as major mental model reconstruction projects sometimes tend to be-- I must've been ready for it, ready for this unifying idea to bring together life and science. And even still I find this understanding, this answer to be both astonishingly simple and just a little bit subversive. Not in the sense that it challenges rules and order, but in the sense that it comes back to shift the question itself.

This. This sea green thing is my answer. A molecule, or, rather, a type of molecule. DNA Polymerase-- an enzyme, an incredible, precise machine, modeled here hard at work. What DNA Polymerase does is replicate (copy) DNA (there is a bunch of related molecules in the cell performing various components of this function, from straight up copying, to fixing particular types of errors that occur due to impact of specific elements of the environment, like for example UV rays from the sun; but since they all share the central feature I am talking about, I am going to talk about it here as if it's all one molecule). In the picture, DNA is the tightly wound thing in coral tones. In reality, it's the sourse of heritable information in the cell. In (almost) every cell in our bodies. In every living organism on Earth. (Viruses don't count-- they are not technically alive, since they need a host to proliferate. Viruses carry their genetic information either in DNA or in RNA, a closely related and most likely older molecule.)

To make a new cell, whether to grow and develop, heal a wound, or create a gamete for procreation, we need to replicate our DNA. Cells, you see, come from other cells. And the way they do it, roughly, is to copy DNA, segreagate it evenly to the future daughter cells, and pinch off the membrane in the middle to make two from one.

DNA is a double stranded molecule. But the beauty is that the information on how to make each strand is stored right in its partner strand. So if you separate the two (and there are enzymes to do that part as well), you can create two copies of the original by following the instructions in each of the single strands. Which is what DNA Polymerase, that sea green thing in the figure, is doing. You can see the single strand being single in brighter pinkish tones towards the top of the figure, continuing in the same color towards the bottom. But you can also see the new strand that the polymerase is making in duller orangish tones below the position where the polymerase is holding onto the strand the closest.

One last bit of science before I get to my point. The information on how to make the new strand is stored in the old strand very locally-- for each position polymerase is to fill in, the information on what piece needs to be put in is stored right across, in the corresponding postion on the old strand. This means that if it accidentally inserts a wrong piece, it should be able to sense it, delete it (via a different part of the molecule than the one that puts the pieces in), and try again. This is one of the mechanisms that makes the machine so accurate.

So here's the thing. DNA Polymerase is very very very accurate. Mindblowingly accurate. But it does make mistakes. Like once in a blue moon. But, our genome is about one third of a blue moon long. So it makes a mistake about every other time a cell's genome is replicated (because it makes two copies every time it replicates one cell's genome-- a new strand for each of the old strands).

These mistakes are not necessarily bad things. Sure, some of them cause cancer and other diseases, and some cause miscarriage. But a lot of them are entirely harmless, occuring in a region that doesn't seem to have a function, or changing only the way the instruction is written in the DNA, and not the instruction itself. And some of them are actually beneficial.

In fact, my answer to that first question, the reason we are here at all is "because of that very low rate of errors of DNA Polymerase."

For example, a long time ago there was no oxygen in Earth's atmosphere. Mostly sulfur. So first, due to some of these errors (and maybe other genome-changing variations, such as copy/paste of whole sections), some bacteria developed a system to use the energy from the sun to change carbon into the form that can be used for growth, using a sulfur compound to make the system go. Later, another bunch of copying errors allowed some bacteria to start using water instead of the sulfur compound in that system. That process produced oxygen. And since water was even more abundant than the sulfur compound, slowly, very slowly, the oxygen-making organisms occupied more and more space, making more and more oxygen, eventually changing our atmosphere into what it is today.

Many-many other changes occurred through the billions of years Earth has been around, both before and after the events I described above. Diversity of organisms populating the planet today, diversity within organisms, difference in the types of organisms living in one type of environment versus the other-- ultimately all of this is down to DNA Polymerase making those very few mistakes every couple of blue moons. If it wasn't for it making mistakes, there would be no humanity. To be fair, there might not even have been yeast. But very definitely no humanity.

 

And this is where I jump to the dead baby thing. Because while some of these errors allow new traits and whole new species to emerge, some of them cause miscarriage. Some of them cause birth defects, some extremely challenging and some fatal. This is why I am so very comfortable saying that there is no reason for why my baby died. It was random, shitty piece of luck. I don't know whether the particular things ruled to be the cause of his death were due to the actions of DNA Polymerase, some other part of cellular machinery, or environment interacting with otherwise ok parts of his or my biology that caused it, and in this sense it doesn't matter to me.

This is why I never ask "why us?" The scientific answer to "why us?" is, I know, "because of random events that occurred sometime during gamete production, fertilization, implantation, or development." The answer to "why me?" (if someone asks me to differentiate that from the "why us?" question) is "because he died, and I am his mother."

 

My philosophical/religious answer is also grounded in this scientific reality. "Why not us?" is that answer. Why should we be exempt from the luck of genetic, developmental, or environmental draw? I just can't see a Higher Being intervening in cellular processes. When my rabbi tried to say something about God calling A home for God's own reasons, I asked her not to say that again. Followed by "if God interferes in DNA replication or chromosome segregation, God needs a hobby."

Though this measured and cerebral part is not all of my answer, it is a lot of it. But there is also an incredibly strong emotional part. So strong in fact, that this is one of the extremely few topics associated with bereavement that is guaranteed to raise my blood pressure. (Not in the bereavement police kind of way, where I wish for everyone to share my perception-- I strongly believe in to each her own. But in the don't tell me how to see this kind of way, where I react strongly to anyone implying that the existence of reasons is an undisputed point of agreement among the bereaved, even if one doesn't know what those reasons are in each particular case.)

I could hardly talk to my mother about A's death for months after because she would inevitably end up at "why us?" again. When I finally turned on her to ask why the hell not us, she had nothing coherent. "Because we are such a good close family" is what she came up with. I laughed a long bitter laugh before asking her to please tell me what kind of a family did deserve to have a child die.

When Monkey was born, conceived after more than two years of trying, and after an early miscarriage, I decided that it is impossible to do anything to deserve having a baby. The happiness brought into our lives by finally getting a chance to love and care for and watch grow this tiny being, it was overwhelming. If you asked me then, I probably would've come up with the inverse, that there is nothing (or nearly nothing) one can do to deserve to have their child die. As is, I don't remember actually articulating this last part until after A's death.

Either way, that's where I am-- it's impossible to deserve to have a healthy child, and it's impossible to deserve to have your child die. And, to me, there is no reason. There is no reason good enough for a Higher Being to take your child. And any Higher Being who would disagree is not a Higher Being I want to have anything to do with.

 

And my final point. Human beings want explanations. And when we don't have them, we make them up. One thing we tend to do a lot is look at a sequence of events, like X happened, and then Y happened, and turn it into X had to happen so that Y could happen, an explanation. And sometimes, if you control for all other moving parts in the system, it is even true. But most of the time it's nothing but a logical fallacy. So I differentiate the things we do after our children die from anything having to do with a reason for why our children had to die. I see what we do after as things we do to learn to live with our tragedies or as we learn to live with our tragedies. Some of these things may be healing, some may be revolutionary and helpful to countless others, and many (most?) are just things we do to get through the days. But to me, none of these things are a good reason. To me, none of them are worth a baby's life.

The way I see it is we move forward because we have to. Putting one foot in front of the other. And sometimes what we do with the shitty hand we are dealt is incredible. Sometimes what we become in the aftermath is stronger and more beautiful than before. But to me, it's not a reason. And not an obligation, either. Just surviving is amazing. Early on, eating and doing laundry, and occasionally showering. Later, engaging in community, real life or virtual, caring about one's job, about politics, books, crafts, anything really. It's all amazing. And, to me, none of it an answer to "why us?"

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Judaism providing validation for the full humanity of a stilborn baby through burial rites

095b - conspicous, and not

 

"Does Monkey have a brother or a sister?"

I consider the source, all three some odd feet of him.  Jake, the skinny kid from my daughter's pre-school, all eyes, the kid who seems to be carrying a torch for her, still, nearly a year after she said her pre-school goodbyes on her way to discover the bigger world that is kindergarten while he stayed for his final year, prisoner of his inconveniently young age. He noticed me where I was crouching into my chair, awaiting my pickup order in the neighborhood Japanese place while he and his family were wallowing away time having already placed their sit-down order.  He asked me first where Monkey was, then something else, and then, finally, THAT question.

His parents, having followed him over to my corner of the universe, now tense preemptively. They are nice enough people, but I can't tell whether they tense because they feel bad for me or because they are afraid I will answer truthfully. I don't know what it is Jake wants to hear either. He might be looking for a validation of a memory he can't explain, or he might just be asking about something just about every other kid he knows has.  Or he might remember something, Monkey talking about her soon to be born brother maybe, or maybe about her brother who died. Jake wasn't even four then. Can he really remember? Does he know what death is? I decide, eventually, that it is not my place to introduce him to the concept if he is not, by chance, familiar. Monkey's good friend and the daughter of our close friends didn't know what it was, and was trying, so hard and for so long, to construct an explanation that didn't suck this very much. So I decide it's not my place to educate, and I answer "No."

The truth is, of course, that Monkey has two brothers. A, the baby who died fifteen months less one day ago inside of me, and this new boy now in my belly. Jake's parents glance at my midsection, or maybe I am just paranoid. Either way, I am not about to make an announcement while I await my order. I am simply not in the mood. But it also means my sons, both of them, remain invisible, and my daughter, in her apparent only-childness, remains conspicuous. After the big ultrasound, walking down the street and chatting, me wrapped in my voluntary pregnancy disguise device, aka my big shawl, looking for all the world as a mother and her only child, Monkey, in response to nothing I can any longer remember saying, said with the air of a huge discovery and equal measure of happiness "But mama, you have three children."

Yes, yes I do. As jarring and scary to accept as that simple statement is, in my heart, I very much have three children. In the eyes of my religion, too, religion which allows full burial rites and full rites of grieving for fetuses over 20 weeks gestation, and which, therefore, has to acknowledge my younger son whatever happens with him from now on, I have three children. Even in the eyes of the law I have three-- as of nine days ago, same 20 week dateline, this new baby can no longer be considered a miscarriage.  And yet, I know full well people in general don't think like that, they don't understand. Even allowing myself to own this statement is terrifying, for it opens me up, somehow more realistically, more viscerally than before, to having to accept the possibility that things visible might remain the same, that we may lose again.

Medusas, though, medusas understand. Here I don't have to keep looking over my shoulder, wondering how others see me. I can both talk about allowing myself to love this new baby, despite not knowing whether he is coming home, and about not wanting or accepting congratulations because I can not let this part of the guard down, and I can't seem to want to let the people who think pregnancy automatically equals full-term, happy, healthy, live baby off the hook.  Here, in the woods, among my snake-haired sisters, I can take these steps I am discovering I need to take-- tentative and contradictory steps into inhabiting this mother of three persona. I need to learn to be her, whatever her visible score is. 

 

So thank you for being here. I am sorry you have a reason to come by.  What I learned in the last fifteen months is that we need each other, for sanity checks if nothing else. To rant and to rave, and to listen. To drink, to pour. To sit in silence. Welcome to the woods. Stay a while, will ya? I hope you do.

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095c - two sons

We baked cupcakes here last night. It was Monkey's half birthday, and I promised her last year, after spontaneously doing one for JD, that we would start doing half birthdays as a matter of policy. Of course, we then equally spontaneously skipped mine, but who's counting. It was a lovely affair, the half-birthday, and it made my daughter happy way out of proportion to the effort required. But I am not so much talking about her half-birthday as the fact that it was sandwiched, not unexpectedly, between two other days.

The day before yesterday was our youngest son's due date, according to me (based on the blood test for ovulation) and the early ultrasound dating. Today is eighteen months since A's due date, and his younger brother's due date by LMP. All of this feels thoroughly surreal. How did we even get here? How is it that I now worry about reflux as opposed to, you know, whether he is still alive inside of me?

He just passed his due date(s), and yet he has been out in the world for almost four weeks. Eventful, strange almost four weeks. Time when I have thought and felt a whole lot, but written only a little. With a notable exception of that one night thirteen days ago, the night before the circumcision.

As a Jewish rite, circumcision, the bris, is kind of a mixed bag. The guest of honor is not usually thrilled with his designated role, though sweet wine they get after tends to help. The food is usually good, and the words, typically, heartfelt. Ah, the words. There are the required parts, but not many. The rest is free form. You don't even need a rabbi to be present, though we did. Our rabbi was supposed to be there for A's bris. Instead, she was there for his funeral. Now she was going to officiate at his little brother's bris. Is your head spinning yet?

I will spare you the play by play of how we thought we would stay up an hour or two to finish the bris program and ended up with JD getting a grand total of an hour of sleep. I will just say that the part I want to share here took me half the night to write and then a whole lot to read outloud.

And so now I bring it here, the one thing I had to but struggled to write. Forged over the many months before and during our younger son's gestation, and written, finally, on the day he was about to go through a milestone we first imagined for his brother.

L is a wonderful new person all his own. And yet, because of when he came to us, his story is inextricably connected to that of his brother A. We do not believe in a God who would use children as reward or punishment, a lesson, or a test. For us there is no rhyme or reason to why children die, no higher purpose. For us the only part that is imbued with meaning is what we choose to do with our broken hearts, how we choose to live after, what we choose to articulate and remember.

In the past nineteen months we learned that grief is the price we pay for love, love’s mirror image. We learned that for us it is not a one-time fee—we will always love and miss our son and Monkey's and L's brother A.G. We learned, too, that grief brings with it fear, for the knowledge of how much there is to lose is both fresh and visceral.

And yet we learned that not taking a chance would be worse. For ourselves and for Monkey, we learned that we were willing to risk our hearts again, in hopes of one day having them expand along with our family. This is the day we couldn’t even imagine only a few short weeks ago. We lived day to day, hour to hour. Today, the enormity of how lucky we got this time and of how far we have come is before us, and we are grateful, as we are grateful to all of you for sharing the day and its meaning with us.

Untimely death is always a tragedy. Yet parents of dead babies have a special loss uniquely ours. We grieve our children. But we also grieve how little we got to know about our children. We know that A had long fingers, but we do not know whether he would’ve used them to play piano, basketball, or neither. We don’t know what color his eyes would’ve been, or what his favorite kasha would have turned out to be. Tiny things that are the stuff of family stories and big things that define one’s character and life paths—we know none of these about our middle son, and we grieve that too.

We know a lot about our daughter, and are looking forward to learning more every day. And we are starting to learn things about our younger son. He loved his first bath. He likes to suck on his hands, and not so much on a pacifier. He is not big on patience, at least for now, but he relaxes and quiets with his mother’s voice and touch.

L is L, his own person. He will not replace his brother, nor should he be expected to. He is not a cosmic payback for the loss of his brother, nor is it possible to make up for that. He is just a boy who makes us feel incredibly lucky to be his parents. We are grateful to all of you for your love and support, and for being here today, and as we are looking forward to continuing to get to know L, we hope and trust that you will regard and treat him as we do—as a unique individual.

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096 - random walk (comment)

Recently, reviewing my blog stats I came across a link back to a christian infertility forum, and a discussion about me and my blog. The general consensus seemed to be pity for me and my lack of faith, and more specifically the women were concerned that my not "knowing Jesus" meant that my grief was "true", and if only I could "know Jesus", "recognise the signs" he was sending me I would be comforted.

I felt kinda weird furtively reading a forum in which I clearly didn't belong, even if the subject matter was me and my dead baby.
I think though, that it's a good example of how I have come across a minority of people who do have very strong faith in a supreme being, and are not willing to accept that I don't.

I think we as dead baby parents should be allowed to grieve in exactly the right way for us. If that means believing in a supreme being/higher power then finet, and if it doesn't that's fine too. We do what we have to do to get by.

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negative example of code 4; wishing for respect for lack of religious faith

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097 - random walk (comment)

I don't have any great insight on this subject but I just wanted to let you know that this post really struck a chord with me. As a longtime believer in randomness above all it's nice to know other folks see things similarly.

A side note that I suppose counts as life experience. The priest who arrived at the hospital to baptize Rosemary before we took her off of the vent made a comment about her going to see Jesus and becoming a little angel. Then he doubled back, corrected himself, and informed us that she would actually always just be a little baby since all of the angels had already been created and heaven worked a certain way. It reminded me of the difference between faith and theology. I'm can appreciate faith (even if I don't really have any of my own). It's all of the theory with no basis in observable phenomena that doesn't go down as smoothly.

Thanks for writing this and jogging my memory.

T

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negative example of code 4: "God and afterlife don't work for me"

098 - random walk (comment)

Wonderful word wandering Julia. It has always been biology for me. The God thing the afterlife etc.-just don't work for me. Though I love the song, food, and tradition of my Judaism I am not religious. I think even if I was it just wouldn't matter it would always be biology. It's tangible, it makes sense-things just went terribly wrong from the get go. baby taz was born full term-incredibly easy birth with undiagnosed trisomy 13 (yes doctor incompetence). 1-20-25,000 live births. Wow think about the statistics there. Statistics don't matter when it happens to you. The challenge is that the emotions don't jive with the "just biology thing". Though rationally I know my child couldn't live I am non the less devastated then a mother whose healthy newborn dies or a baby who died from a cord accident. You wouldn't love your living child any less if they suddenly became incapacitated. You don't get more random then baby taz. I'm with you gals on the sentimental dead baby poetry. I guess the thing that still troubles me the most is the inability for people to cry with you. It is such a nice thing when you can walk with a friend and just talk and cry and it feels so natural and not uncomfortable-but wow there just aren't many who can go there. I sure wish the DNA thing was perfect and umbilical cords were titanium and the world only had strong healthy babies. I love you woman for making glow-though I don't contribute often It is a place I seek out often. THough it has been over 3 years I still very much need this place.

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099a - just sayin' hello

Amanda, you are correct. People say just about the stupidest things to hurt a babylost parent's feeling. One of my cousin had a baby and it is struggling as well, but still alive. Almost everyday, she posts about how God is good and it's because she still has her baby. By definition does that make God bad because we don't have ours? Or how she knows that God exists because of her miracle baby... God doesn't exist because yours and mine are dead? What stupid sentiments to prove that He exists or not.

ss, I'm sorry that there was no support for you when you had your precious daughter 7 years ago. As helpful as Glow has been to us when our friends deserted us and won't talk about Kaleb (heck, even our family doesn't really. The emotional aptitude of a wombat I think...), I couldn't imagine not having like-minded people.

Em, I agree that there is no such thing as a grey-space in between the black and white issues of life. As Ayn Rand put it in Atlas Shrugged- and I'm summarizing here- compromise (grey areas) is treason to truth.

Suzanne, it is considered a partial, translocated trisomy. I'm sad to say that I know exactly what that means in light of the research I did about the possibilities with Kaleb. I'm glad you got to hold your son in your arms before he died... what was his name? We had six days with Kaleb before I had to make the hardest decision of my entire life. To take him off life support. WTF kinda decision is that to have to make for a parent?!?

Thank you all for your kind thoughts on his 3 month birthday... I'm sure if you even only thought of him once it was more than most of our former "friends" did on that day. Sad, but true. Thank you for the welcome to Glow.

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099b - today is hard

Nat,

I honestly have been struggling with this same concept... my wife's best friend and her husband had a healthy (yet ugly) baby boy 6 weeks or so before Kaleb was born via c-section. Why does their baby get to live and mine not so much? I honestly don't know and it's been driving me crazy.

As far as slight "comfort" may go, after some research (and listening to my wife's greater research), she told me about a concept in Judaism called the Hall of Souls (or something very similar, it's hard to get me to focus on one name because it's so close to the Eragon series of book's Vault of Souls). Sidetracks aside, basically it is a theory that everyone exists before they're born and that all people that existed HAVE to be born or conceived in the physical world at least. The purer the soul, the shorter their existence here is... with still born children and children born early and dying the purist... (Side note: I'm not Jewish and this is what I think the explanation is. If anyone IS Jewish and understands this concept better than I do, feel free to correct me in any way. I mean no offense to your culture by getting this wrong.) So, Nat, maybe the fact is that precious Grace was just plain too good for this world and my Kaleb was the same... doesn't make me happy to not have him in my arms (or Grace and any other baby in the arms of his/her parents)... but it's something to think on.

Hoping comfort finds you and wraps its arms around you on this day.

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100a - dear friend

I'm so sorry you thought of us when your friend's newborn died this week.  I'm sorry for your friends and their lost child most of all, but I'm sad for you, and for us, too, that we are now experts at this.  But fear not, you contacted the right people.  We can help you help them.

First of all, start cooking.  Do laundry, clean the house, take charge.  Keep it up for at least a month, with the help of other friends.  Right away, order her to bed and give him a beer or nine.  Yeah yeah yeah alcohol is dangerous and addictive and all that, but I swear to whatever god is out there, delicious malted barley and fermented hops probably saved my life in those first days.  Way better than the anti-depressants or valium they'll probably want.  But let them have them, too, for a little while.  Obviously, not together.  But a little bit of numb is fine.  They are in shock-panic-disaster-mode.  All their alarms are going off and nothing makes any sense at all right now.  Let them grieve, but help them be calm, too, if you can.

And frankly, yeah they are probably a little suicidal and a little crazy and definitely extremely lost.  Their souls have just been shredded by the Universe itself.  They are fucked up and they need help.  That is why you have to hold them tight and keep them close.  Do it in shifts.  Be with them, but don't overwhelm them with people.  If anyone manages to make either of them laugh no matter how dark and awful the humor, that is an extremely good sign.  Don't bring in clowns, but aim for a little bit of black humor if they are the type that needs that.  I did and my brothers did me right.  Those moments of dark levity were less-awful-spots in a terrible, incomprehensible time.

Don't make them have to make decisions.  In the first days after Silas's death I could only think a few minutes into the future and not all that successfully.  "Should I get up?  Should I eat?  Should I bother even thinking about any of that?"  I felt alien and awful in the outside world.  I'll never forget my first errand out to the bank and a Walgreens after he died.  I returned worn out from a ten minute ride up the street.  I was crazed with grief and overwhelmed by the fact that the world just kept on going even though mine had come to a complete stop.

Do anything you can to make them have less to think about.  Right now they are trying to figure out what the fuck they are supposed to do with their dead child, with their demolished hopes, with their annihilated lives.  Don't make them have to think about chores, too.

And yeah, she's worse off than him right now in a more immediate, physical way.  But then the other way around, that also makes it worse for him, too.  His disconnection from the physical bond mother and child shared is also a loss for him.  Mentally, emotionally, chemically, he was preparing to meet and bond with that child, just like the mother, but now he has even less than what she had, in a way.  Really all I'm saying is he's working hard to stay strong and upright for her, but don't mistake courage for strength.  I always felt like I was on the verge of a bottomless, endless void.  Stand there and face it with him if you can, and don't let that void consume either of them.

A death like this can be a poison to their souls.  It will take a great deal of patience and time for either of them to even begin to fake normalcy.  Shower them with love.  Talk about their child, use her name.  Look them in the face and the eyes when you discuss the absurd awfulness of their plight.  Tell them how much you miss her.  Do not be afraid to be direct and honest and clear with them.  The death of their child is like a blazing nova of utter blackness and its awful light reveals everything about their lives, their hopes, and about their friends and their families.  Do not be afraid to stand directly next to them and face directly into that palpable pain if you want to keep them alive and keep them protected and keep them as friends.  Those that cannot handle what they are going through won't stay around long, and they will know very quickly who they can count on.  Be someone they can always count on, because right now they can't count on anything at all.  The Universe itself has turned on them.

Never say that everything happens for a reason.  Never try to mollify them with talk of angels and meant-to-be's.  Never say that God works in mysterious ways.  Never compare a trivial loss in your own life with what they are going through.  Don't talk about babies.  Don't talk about hope and somedays and futures.  Help them deal with the immediate dilemmas of everyday life (ie what show to watch, what time to eat, that it is okay to not shower) and don't even consider trying to tell them anything about the true nature of reality and what good might someday come.  Any of that is just dressing up a shit sandwich with rotten tomatoes and wilted lettuce.

I'm sorry.  I love you.  I miss your child.  I'm here for you.  Let me do that for you.  Those are the only things you need to say right now and each and every one should be followed with a tight and true hug.  Cry with them.  Be silent with them.  Talk with them if they can find any words at all.

Lastly, don't forget to take care of yourself, as well.  Work with your friends to always keep someone close, but make sure to sustain your own life so that you are strong and ready when you are with them.  They will be strange and sad and difficult, but if you love them and are patient you just may keep a flicker of light alive in their souls.  But don't worry about sanity right now, that's a lost cause anyway.  Just leave breadcrumbs on the trail back and help them be a little bit okay for a little bit of one day, each day, every day, hour by hour, minute by minute.

They are on a whole new timescale now.  They are now counting the moments since they lost their child, and nothing will ever be even remotely the same again.  They need company in this new landscape, though, and that means you need to help them find their way step by step.  But don't call them baby-steps, they just might punch you in the face for that one.

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100b - the rising stars

 

I'm not sure how to do this, what to call it or how to get through it.  The anniversary of Silas' birth and death is on Friday which means I am a year deep into this nightmare and still mostly lost.

Our plan is to spend time away with my brother's family, up in New Hampshire.  Their house is cozy and safe, tucked onto a hillside in the midst of trees and trails, the canopy of stars endless above.

Orion NebulaIt's those fucking stars I'm worried about.  It was right around this time when we picked Orion as his middle name.  I've always loved constellations and the way that one in particular is special for the winter nights.  If you are out in northeast America and can see Orion, it is certainly crisp and cold.

Missing Silas chills my soul.  Each of those stars are huge, hot suns, but I cannot feel any of their massive warmth.  Very soon now that piercing and familiar constellation will begin to peek over the horizon, and I don't know how I'm going to handle that.  They were supposed to be his special connection to the world, and now it is ours to him.

I'm worried about Friday, but not too much.  I'm sure it will be painful to recognize that a full year has passed without our son, and I am a little terrified of the fact that this is only the first of many, many years we will not have him.  I am certain it will hurt less than what I experienced a year ago but I should know better than to be certain of anything.

I looked for Orion last night, but I didn't see it.  Maybe this year it won't appear, and then that will prove I am in a whole other Universe than the one I thought I was inhabiting.  That would be proof of the disbelief I still feel for this World around me.  It wouldn't even surprise me, really.  Just another part of all of this I cannot trust to be correct and true.

Instead of celebrating, we continue to mourn but I'm so good at it now, you can't even tell I'm doing it every day, all the time.  So then Friday is just another day without Silas, unless, of course,  his rising constellation coincides with our drive north into solitude.  How can it not?

Is it faith or belief or religion for me to assume that the Universe will fuck with me any chance it gets?  I always thought we were on pretty good terms.  Healthy respect for the Vast Ineffability of it all mixed with wonder and love and appreciation for Its endless beauty and mystery, but I guess I missed how dark and deep the Mystery part goes.  Because I am very fucking mystified by how much this sucks.

I have to hold back anger when I have to let people know exactly what I am not celebrating, but then I remember there's nothing they can do for me anyway, so why bother?  I'm surprised by the number of people that seem to have forgotten.  But then I have also been surprised with unexpected cards and gifts and kind words from so many people who do remember him, and do understand how sad we remain.

The people that remember and acknowledge Silas, the people that hold him and us in their hearts, they are carrying us along, and we thank you all for your love and support.  We need it so much, especially this week as his stars slip into the night sky and his day passes us by.

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101 - dear friend (comment)

A few other things to add:

Support the people who are the front lines of grief, providing support to the bereaved. This is particularly applicable for those who are not in a good position to support the grieving parents, i.e. a hugely pregnant sister-in-law is probably not the most welcome guest in times like these. Not her fault, but it is what it is. She can, however, water the plants and collect the mail for her mother, who is on the front lines comforting and caring for the family members in crisis.

Pop in at four or six weeks and offer to scrape all the dried out, no-longer edible casseroles and gifts of food into the trash. Cleaning out the fridge is an unbelievably daunting process, and remembering each visit and blundering well-intentioned person who brought the food in the first place can be painful reminders.

Seek out others who've been through what you're going through: online, in person, in support groups. I only wanted to be around people who'd been through the kind of grieving I was doing for a while. I make a geeky reference to Harry Potter to try to describe it. In the Harry Potter books, there are magical creatures called thestrels. They are gentle, horselike creatures that are invisible unless you've seen someone die. Some people can see thestrels (Harry, Luna Lovegood, Nevin Longbottom); some can't. I only wanted to be around people who could see thestrels for a while.

Oh, and never say, "Your child is in a better place." There is no better place for a cherished child than with their parents. Even if you fervently believe that God must have needed another angel, just zip it, for now.

And maybe, just maybe, link to this post or sum up the comments and post them on other online parenting forums not dedicted to the babylost. The Bump, Mothering dot Commune, Baby Center, Parenting.com.... You never know who will click on this. The well-meaning friends and family members who need these tips so desperately won't know how to find them when they first get this kind of news. Maybe gently sharing them in other forums will help someone be prepared in ways they can't know when they first click on them there.

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wanting to do right by Catholic tradition in terms of her baby's remains

102 - giving the church the wrong impression

I just realized this morning I probably gave my entire church the impression that I've had an abortion.

I tend to sort of ramble and stutter when I get nervous.

What happened is that I've been asking for years what the church teaches about children that die in the womb. All I ever got was some lay sister shoving a piece of canon law at me about how they can't be baptized if they're already dead. I asked again, because I have been asking for years. I just wanted a straight answer.

See, the thing is, my first child was thrown away as medical waste. I miscarried, they threw the baby away and did a D&C (for which I had to be sedated, probably because they weren't sure I'd hold still for it). A D &C means dilation & curettage - horrifying to any Catholic because it is the same way they abort fetuses.

Then, after my third child was born and died, I was going to go to nursing school to help moms like me. Yeah. While I was in, the story broke about the abortion clinic where they were chucking children's bodies out with the McDonald's bags, and the woman who found them and buried them was sued. Then a few days after that, I had to watch a detailed interview recorded with Margaret Sanger.

So, of my children, I've buried two and a piece of paper since the body was incinerated, in unconsecrated ground because I didn't know whether I could ask for them to be buried in a proper graveyard since they weren't baptized.

So I asked a rambling question that made no sense yesterday then realized this morning that I probably gave the wrong impression completely. But it has been something tugging at me for close to five years at this point, interfering with going to Mass, interfering with ways to answer my living son's questions, and stopping me from getting past my own guilt trip. I'm glad he gave me a straight answer, that helps way more than "you just have to have faith that..." or "you could have a mass said for them" or the sideways things that made it feel even more my fault that I couldn't carry to term.

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